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Washington Post’s Ezra Klein explains the reconciliation process that Democrats need to pass health care reform and what Republicans can do to drag it out. Stephen Colbert opines that Americans don’t want health care reform jammed down …
UNDERNEWS: THE KILLER VIRUS IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL
To many, it reeks of intolerable government interference in citizens’ lives and causes them to ignore the good aspects of the healthcare legislation. It is the killer virus in the legislation. Should the bill pass, it would make sense …
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“We have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it.” That unfortunately is the sad state of affairs, not just with healthcare, but with virtually any bill passed by Congress. The only people who know what is in …
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â œBut we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we sent the three pillars …
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Beating Back the Health Care Bill Now
Democrats also risk losing seven members who voted for the bill, but have since became displeased with the handling of the health care bill—or have come under pressure from voters in their conservative districts to oppose it. …
So why are Liberals on here so happy at a bill that took numerous backroom deals to get their own party to?
What do you think?
Yes or no…?
I’m really on the fence about this one.
I guess I wanna know why people are thinking the way they are.
should the proposed health care bill pass?
“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. Furthermore, we believe that health care reform, again I said at the beginning of my remarks, that we sent the three pillars that the President’s economic stabilization and job creation initiatives were education and innovation—innovation begins in the classroom—clean energy and climate, addressing the climate issues in an innovative way to keep us number one and competitive in the world with the new technology, and the third, first among equals I may say, is health care, health insurance reform.”
Why does Pelosi need to pass the health bill just to find out what is in it?
Does they are having any obstacle to pass this bill or reform?
How congress and president keep their check and balance with the health care reform?
That it’s over for their healthcare monstrosity.
Polling conducted earlier this week shows that 57% of voters believe that passage of the legislation would hurt the economy, while only 25% believe it would help. That makes sense in a nation where most voters believe that increases in government spending are bad for the economy.
When the president responds that the plan is deficit neutral, he runs into a pair of basic problems. The first is that voters think reducing spending is more important than reducing the deficit. So a plan that is deficit neutral with a big spending hike is not going to be well received.
But the bigger problem is that people simply don’t trust the official projections. People in Washington may live and die by the pronouncements of the Congressional Budget Office, but 81% of voters say it’s likely the plan will end up costing more than projected. Only 10% say the official numbers are likely to be on target.
As a result, 66% of voters believe passage of the president’s plan will lead to higher deficits and 78% say it’s at least somewhat likely to mean higher middle-class taxes. Even within the president’s own political party there are concerns on these fronts.
A plurality of Democrats believe the health-care plan will increase the deficit and a majority say it will likely mean higher middle-class taxes. At a time when voters say that reducing the deficit is a higher priority than health-care reform, these numbers are hard to ignore.
The proposed increase in government spending creates problems for advocates of reform beyond the perceived impact on deficits and the economy. Fifty-nine percent of voters say that the biggest problem with the health-care system is the cost: They want reform that will bring down the cost of care. For these voters, the notion that you need to spend an additional trillion dollars doesn’t make sense. If the program is supposed to save money, why does it cost anything at all?
On top of that, most voters expect that passage of the congressional plan will increase the cost of care at the same time it drives up government spending. Only 17% now believe it will reduce the cost of care.
The final piece of the puzzle is that the overwhelming majority of voters have insurance coverage, and 76% rate their own coverage as good or excellent. Half of these voters say it’s likely that if the congressional health bill becomes law, they would be forced to switch insurance coverage—a prospect hardly anyone ever relishes. These numbers have barely moved for months: Nothing the president has said has reassured people on this point.
Why don’t Obama and Pelosi know what every one in Amercia already knows?
The Washington Post’s Richard Cohen explains why President Obama hasn’t been able to ram his health care overhaul through Congress: democracy.
The baleful fact is that the country suffers from a surfeit of democracy — a gazillion interest groups, a gazillion blogs, a gazillion talk shows and all of them insisting on transparency so a gazillion eyes peer over the shoulders of politicians. The black but necessary art of politics shies from the sun. Little gets done. Backrooms have been turned into rec rooms and meetings are seminars. We are doomed. Worse, we are bored.
Why, the nerve of all those Americans! Actually demanding to know the details of a process that is creating a bill that will radically impact their lives.
Cohen isn’t an isolated example. Thomas Friedman has repeatedly gushed about China’s “reasonably enlightened” authoritarian rulers and how they are so much more effective than America’s democracy.
And now: Noted philosopher Sean Penn says journalists who call Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez a dictator should be jailed.
http://blogs.investors.com/capitalhill/index.php/home/35-politics/1495-liberals-say-america-has-too-much-democracy
In your opinion, do we have too much Democracy, as being claimed by some liberals?
FINALLY SOMEONE ASKED HIM THE QUESTION ON “ABC-TV” Monday October 12, 2009 DURING THE “NETWORK SPECIAL ON HEALTH CARE”…. OBAMA WAS ASKED:
“MR PRESIDENT WILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY GIVE UP YOUR CURRENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM AND JOIN THE NEW ‘UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PROGRAM’ THAT THE REST OF US WILL BE ON ????”
THERE WAS A STONEY SILENCE AS OBAMA IGNORED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE NOT TO ANSWER IT!!! IN ADDITION, A NUMBER OF SENATORS WERE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS.
“WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT.”
AND THEY DID. IT WAS ANNOUNCED TODAY ON THE NEWS THAT THE “KENNEDY HEALTH CARE BILL” WAS WRITTEN INTO THE NEW HEALTH CARE REFORM INITIATIVE ENSURING THAT THAT CONGRESS WILL BE 100% EXEMPT!
Amendment 28
Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .
Liberal astroturfers: Mind if I stir your pot on health care?
60% of Americans believe the United States is on the wrong track, according to a poll conducted by Democratic Corps, a Democratic organization, and Third Way, a progressive non-profit organization.
53% of young Republicans are “definitely” going to the polls this November, compared to 44% of Democrats, according to the poll from the Harvard Institute of Politics.
57% of voters say the health care reform plan now working its way through Congress will hurt the U.S. economy, according to Rasmussen polls.
66% of voters believe the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats is likely to increase the federal deficit, according to Rasmussen polls.
81% of voters believe it is at least somewhat likely that the health care reform plan will cost more than official estimates, according to Rasmussen polls.
78% of Americans believe that taxes on the middle class will have to be raised eventually to pay for the healthcare bill, according to Rasmussen polls.
53% of Americans are opposed to Obamacare, according to the latest Rasmussen polls.Ken, if it rains gold coins are problems will al be solved too. Fantasy has no place in govtKen, fantasy has no place in govt
Do Dems just not understand numbers?
Apparently on his radio show, Rush stated that he would leave the country if health reform is passed and go to Costa Rica.
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CALLER: If the health care bill passes, where would you go for health care yourself? And the second part of that is, what would happen to the doctors, do they have to participate in the federal program, or could they opt out of it? [...]
LIMBAUGH: My guess in even in Canada and even in the UK, doctors have opted out. And once they’ve opted, they can’t see anybody Medicare, Medicaid, or what will become the exchanges. They have to have a clientele of private patients that will pay them a retainer and it’ll be a very small practice. I don’t know if that’s been outlawed in the Senate bill. I don’t know. I’ll just tell you this, if this passes and it’s five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented — I am leaving the country. I’ll go to Costa Rica.
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See this link for a playback of the call. http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/09/limbaugh-exile-health-care/
Unfortunately it looks like Costa Rica already has a similar system to the reform package that’s being discussed:
“Costa Rica’s hybrid government-private health care system provides comprehensive universal coverage to all residents — and even sells affordable policies to soon-to-be visitors like Limbaugh. The government owns several major public hospitals and operates small clinics in almost every community. Workers are required to contribute 15% of their salaries to health insurance and the unemployed “obtain public funding for all health services, including prescription drugs.” At least a third of all Costa Rican residents receive some care in the private sector and the government regularly purchases services from private providers. The system is not without its problems, but it boasts a higher ranking from the World Health Organization — Costa Rica is 36, United States 37 — and has higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rates. Costa Rica also spends less per capita on health care than the United States and insures almost all of its residents.”
So my question to you is, where in the developed world could Rush flee to if he was indeed serious?Excellent job Shovel Ready. You have stated the obvious. Now let me clarify… WHERE in the developed world is he going to go to find health care that isnt “ruined” by a socialist approach? His chosen destination of Costa Rica already has the same approach he’d be fleeing from.Thank you Emporer has no clothes for reminding me that somehow creating insurance exchanges that allow people to purchase from private companies across state lines is a “government takeover” of health care… somehow. Could you direct me to a link that shows which bill you’re talking about? The current legislation’s main provision is the creation of insurance exchanges to allow freer competition between insurance agencies.
Rush Limbaugh wants to leave the country if health reform is passed!? Question: Where would he go?
I’M INTERESTED TO SEE JUST HOW MANY SUPPORT THE HEALTH CARE PLAN AND HOW MANY DON’T. AND WHY?
THE “HEALTH CARE BILL” WHO AGREES AND DISAGREES?








